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Episode 112 – Unscripted

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Referenced in the Podcast

Correction: Jordan referenced D&C 87 as the section discussing “the one mighty and strong” … he meant to say section 85.

One of the grand fundamental principles of Mormonism is to receive truth, let it come from whence it may.

Mormonism is truth; and every man who embraces it feels himself at liberty to embrace every truth: consequently the shackles of superstition, bigotry, ignorance, and priestcraft, fall at once from his neck; and his eyes are opened to see the truth, and truth greatly prevails over priestcraft… Mormonism is truth, in other words the doctrine of the Latter-day Saints, is truth. … The first and fundamental principle of our holy religion is, that we believe that we have a right to embrace all, and every item of truth, without limitation or without being circumscribed or prohibited by the creeds or superstitious notions of men, or by the dominations of one another, when that truth is clearly demonstrated to our minds, and we have the highest degree of evidence of the same.

Joseph Smith


  1. I play the radio
    I play the radio January 31, 2023

    “Here is the chapel, here is the steeple, open up the doors and see the church.”
    Or, perhaps even better: “Here is The Corporation for the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, here is the steeple, open up the doors, and see all the people to whom all the warnings in the Book of Mormon are written to and for.”

    • Rebe
      Rebe January 31, 2023

      “I play the radio” That was awesome.

  2. I play the radio
    I play the radio January 31, 2023

    “Everything I’ve said so far is recoverable”
    “I don’t know how it got to be my girlfriend”

  3. TBM
    TBM February 1, 2023

    Interesting to watch Bobby take an unprescribed red pill.

    Simple explanation for CoJCoLDS: it’s run by octogenarians, for octogenarians. And while I’m not terribly pro-vax, it is probably(?) a good thing for people of that age. And these octogenarians have a predisposition to Trust Authority, else they wouldn’t be in their positions in the first place, as the system (or the beast if you prefer) is set up to promote those who worship it.

    No single individual created it, but it always gets created in every age, in both governments and churches.

    A long essay, but I encourage all to read it:

    “Bostrom makes an offhanded reference of the possibility of a dictatorless dystopia, one that every single citizen including the leadership hates but which nevertheless endures unconquered. It’s easy enough to imagine such a state. Imagine a country with two rules: first, every person must spend eight hours a day giving themselves strong electric shocks. Second, if anyone fails to follow a rule (including this one), or speaks out against it, or fails to enforce it, all citizens must unite to kill that person. Suppose these rules were well-enough established by tradition that everyone expected them to be enforced.

    So you shock yourself for eight hours a day, because you know if you don’t everyone else will kill you, because if they don’t, everyone else will kill them, and so on. Every single citizen hates the system, but for lack of a good coordination mechanism it endures. From a god’s-eye-view, we can optimize the system to “everyone agrees to stop doing this at once”, but no one within the system is able to effect the transition without great risk to themselves.”

    • Jordan
      Jordan February 1, 2023

      5 minutes worth your time. This info has been trying to get out into the public since last year. … “Top Insurance Analyst Finds a 7% Increase In Aggregate Mortality for Each C19 VAX Dose Received”

      I think it’s becoming clear that the risk of taking the vax is much higher in all age groups than people thought. If you’re old (i.e. octogenarian) then it’s a huge problem statistically because you already carry a much higher chance of death than a young person. Looking at the vax on a statistically broad scale it appears to be a mortality acceleration agent in the population. If age is the only factor, the younger you are, the less likely you are to die any time soon. So increasing your chance of death by 7% is really a very minor concern. (The danger for young people seems to be showing up more often as serious side effects. And remember … the effects may lag and show up later… no one knows the longer term effects of the vax.) If you’re over 80, your chance of dying any year is high, so increasing that by 35% (5 shots) … and if over time we see greater impact from the vax … you may accelerate your death even more dramatically. I.e. we might be approaching a situation where older folks are statistically cutting the time they have left in half if we see an increase in that 7% per dose number and they take more shots.
      If this site is correct, if you’re age 20 your odds of dying within a year are 0.11%. That’s 1 in a thousand roughly. If you increase that by 35% it’s 0.14% … one and a half out of a thousand. It doesn’t even list the chances of dying for someone under 20 in one year. It’s so small it can’t be seen on the graph. And still we’re definitely hearing of many young people who have been hurt or killed by the vax. If you’re 80 your chances of dying within the next year are 5.8% … so about 6 out of 100. Those odds could increase for all ages if the vax has effects that compound over time. You bump that closer to 8 out of 100 if you are 80 years old and took the 5 shots. Like they say about the lottery, you’ve gotta play to win.

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